Comments on: How Evil Is Apple? http://marknelson.us/2008/03/31/how-evil-is-apple/ Programming, mostly. Thu, 09 Sep 2010 10:32:24 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.3 By: Dave http://marknelson.us/2008/03/31/how-evil-is-apple/#comment-321016 Dave Fri, 08 Jan 2010 02:07:33 +0000 http://marknelson.us/2008/03/31/how-evil-is-apple/#comment-321016 Google recently attempted to submit GoogleTalk to the Apple apps store as a free app. Apple refused to accept the submittal. Of course, its their store so they can sell or post what they want. Traditional telcos _hate_ google. A GoogleTalk app on an iPhone would allow a user to pass "voice" calls over the phone's packet channel (wifi or 2.5G), rather than the voice channel...a revenue-losing prospect for the telco SP. Google's CEO, Eric Schmidt, used the occasion to resign his position on Apple's board of directors. I dont think Apple and Google like each other any more. And, now we know, given the choice of pandering to their iPhone selling SPs or serving the better interests of their end customers - which choice will Apple make? Google recently attempted to submit GoogleTalk to the Apple apps store as a free app. Apple refused to accept the submittal. Of course, its their store so they can sell or post what they want. Traditional telcos _hate_ google. A GoogleTalk app on an iPhone would allow a user to pass “voice” calls over the phone’s packet channel (wifi or 2.5G), rather than the voice channel…a revenue-losing prospect for the telco SP. Google’s CEO, Eric Schmidt, used the occasion to resign his position on Apple’s board of directors. I dont think Apple and Google like each other any more.

And, now we know, given the choice of pandering to their iPhone selling SPs or serving the better interests of their end customers - which choice will Apple make?

]]> By: Geoff http://marknelson.us/2008/03/31/how-evil-is-apple/#comment-316946 Geoff Sun, 18 Oct 2009 00:37:43 +0000 http://marknelson.us/2008/03/31/how-evil-is-apple/#comment-316946 This is intrusive marketing, plain and simple. They are pushing their product on others in the hope that the recipient won't mind getting software they never would have considered otherwise. How evil is Apple? One word: Bonjour. QED. This is intrusive marketing, plain and simple.

They are pushing their product on others in the hope that the recipient won’t mind getting software they never would have considered otherwise.

How evil is Apple? One word: Bonjour.

QED.

]]> By: WangVS http://marknelson.us/2008/03/31/how-evil-is-apple/#comment-312252 WangVS Fri, 14 Aug 2009 21:12:48 +0000 http://marknelson.us/2008/03/31/how-evil-is-apple/#comment-312252 I have found Apple's intrusiveness offensive. I used Macs back in the 1980s and loved them, and I hate MS and their practices, but Apple seems to have more nerve than is good for them. A common problem among software providers from mainstream to shareware to freeware is that the author/publisher seems to think that his software is the only stuff I will ever need or use. This skewed viewpoint results in overpriced products and software vendors trying to push more stuff out to my overloaded PC than I wish to receive. I first noticed this back in the shareware days, when purveyors of trivial shareware products were so proud of them that they thought they warranted fees of $20, $30, $50. In fact, I would be looking at having dozens or scores of such products if only the were more reasonably priced. As it was I used almost none of them. I have found Apple’s intrusiveness offensive. I used Macs back in the 1980s and loved them, and I hate MS and their practices, but Apple seems to have more nerve than is good for them.

A common problem among software providers from mainstream to shareware to freeware is that the author/publisher seems to think that his software is the only stuff I will ever need or use. This skewed viewpoint results in overpriced products and software vendors trying to push more stuff out to my overloaded PC than I wish to receive.

I first noticed this back in the shareware days, when purveyors of trivial shareware products were so proud of them that they thought they warranted fees of $20, $30, $50. In fact, I would be looking at having dozens or scores of such products if only the were more reasonably priced. As it was I used almost none of them.

]]> By: S. Bala Murugan http://marknelson.us/2008/03/31/how-evil-is-apple/#comment-311375 S. Bala Murugan Sun, 02 Aug 2009 14:13:58 +0000 http://marknelson.us/2008/03/31/how-evil-is-apple/#comment-311375 Evil....mmm... world and its business have gone so much worse these days there is no way you can define this anymore... with all the layers of outsourcing, globalization bigger companies just plainly escape from being called a cheat... same way companies like apple, coke, Pepsi, just escape using marketing, brand management and propaganda control.... Soviet went down for good but it went down with all the hopes to evolve a better economic system for the world... The order of the world is 20% make options for the other 80% which they choose happily... Evil….mmm… world and its business have gone so much worse these days there is no way you can define this anymore… with all the layers of outsourcing, globalization bigger companies just plainly escape from being called a cheat… same way companies like apple, coke, Pepsi, just escape using marketing, brand management and propaganda control…. Soviet went down for good but it went down with all the hopes to evolve a better economic system for the world…

The order of the world is
20% make options for the other 80% which they choose happily…

]]> By: Mark Nelson http://marknelson.us/2008/03/31/how-evil-is-apple/#comment-304809 Mark Nelson Wed, 03 Jun 2009 01:12:39 +0000 http://marknelson.us/2008/03/31/how-evil-is-apple/#comment-304809 @Jeff: I don't know about the 1/10th factor, I think my mileage must vary :-) @Jeff: I don’t know about the 1/10th factor, I think my mileage must vary :-)

]]> By: Jeff Sprague http://marknelson.us/2008/03/31/how-evil-is-apple/#comment-304803 Jeff Sprague Wed, 03 Jun 2009 00:48:59 +0000 http://marknelson.us/2008/03/31/how-evil-is-apple/#comment-304803 Can't disagree with the premise, but as my Mac gives me about 1/10th the problems my Windows machine gives me, and their apps are so darn stable and good (although I still use Firefox) I can forgive a little evil. Can’t disagree with the premise, but as my Mac gives me about 1/10th the problems my Windows machine gives me, and their apps are so darn stable and good (although I still use Firefox) I can forgive a little evil.

]]> By: Angel http://marknelson.us/2008/03/31/how-evil-is-apple/#comment-266500 Angel Sat, 24 Jan 2009 20:41:56 +0000 http://marknelson.us/2008/03/31/how-evil-is-apple/#comment-266500 (By the way, I should note that in the past I’ve always used Firefox on OS/X - Safari 2.0 was lame, unstable, your basic piece of crap. I’m writing this on Windows using Safari 3.1, which is surprisingly fast and seemingly bug free. Quite an improvement!) Yeap! It is mostly based on Linux KDE's konqueror. (By the way, I should note that in the past I’ve always used Firefox on OS/X - Safari 2.0 was lame, unstable, your basic piece of crap. I’m writing this on Windows using Safari 3.1, which is surprisingly fast and seemingly bug free. Quite an improvement!)

Yeap! It is mostly based on Linux KDE’s konqueror.

]]> By: rg125 http://marknelson.us/2008/03/31/how-evil-is-apple/#comment-185246 rg125 Sat, 02 Aug 2008 18:01:48 +0000 http://marknelson.us/2008/03/31/how-evil-is-apple/#comment-185246 Much ado about nothing. Much ado about nothing.

]]> By: Gabrielius http://marknelson.us/2008/03/31/how-evil-is-apple/#comment-168751 Gabrielius Wed, 09 Jul 2008 20:41:21 +0000 http://marknelson.us/2008/03/31/how-evil-is-apple/#comment-168751 I totally agree with your post. Once I got Apple's quick time installed, it always asks, whether I would not like to make it default software (apple image viewer). And even I check "don't ask me again", it persistently asks me next time, after I got rebooted my PC. Let's face it: Apple is a pile of crap because of this. Peace, out ;) I totally agree with your post. Once I got Apple’s quick time installed, it always asks, whether I would not like to make it default software (apple image viewer). And even I check “don’t ask me again”, it persistently asks me next time, after I got rebooted my PC. Let’s face it: Apple is a pile of crap because of this. Peace, out ;)

]]> By: Mark Nelson http://marknelson.us/2008/03/31/how-evil-is-apple/#comment-112662 Mark Nelson Mon, 07 Apr 2008 16:58:20 +0000 http://marknelson.us/2008/03/31/how-evil-is-apple/#comment-112662 @valency: Well, I can't claim to have your integrity, I did D/L it and give it a try. The 3.1 release is pretty nice, but ultimately I'm back to Firefox 3 beta 5, which is pretty nice as well. @valency:

Well, I can’t claim to have your integrity, I did D/L it and give it a try. The 3.1 release is pretty nice, but ultimately I’m back to Firefox 3 beta 5, which is pretty nice as well.

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